No, seriously, there are some trivial things that all merit a response, but none of which are really so major as to warrant an individual post. So, let's begin....
First, we have the silliness that has erupted around A. G. Casebeer's violent threats that were posted on uber-bigot "Monica" Robert's Facebook Page. Mr. Roberts pulled the page as soon as the controversy began, but fortunately it was preserved for posterity by Dana Lane Taylor. Well, "Autumn" Sandeen has now posted about how Casebeer and Mr. Roberts have apologized for the nasty remarks. Well, actually, they appear to have posted some rather insincere sounding remarks that sound more like they are sorry they got caught. But the real story is about how "Monica" Helms reacted to a comment from CathrynP, a transsexual who has long been a major thorn in the side of the transgender extremists. Mr. Helms, as only he can do, goes off.
Now, CathrynP replied very calmly, pointing out that Mr. Helms is basically lying. So, how does Mr. Sandeen react? Well, as usual, he "drops a card," but warns both Mr. Helms (who regularly violates the rules at Pam's House Blend without any real fear of ever being booted, and CathrynP who didn't really violate any reasonable rule. Another example of Mr. Sandeen's efforts to censor those he disagrees with, while allowing the worst sort of behavior from friends like Mr. Helms. And of course, a later nasty remark by Mr. Roberts, who seems incapable of much else, doesn't even seem to warrant notice.
Yeah, right!Whine, whine, whine. You have hated Monica for as long as you have hated me, because she sees you for what you really are, and have pointed out your lies on several occasions. You can't stand it when people see right through you. You have even threaten her and Dawn Wilson to the point where they had to report YOU to the authorities. You are the last person on the planet to call for stripping someone of anything. You need only to look in the mirror to see the one person who has spread more hate then the other Cathy, Monica and AC could ever do together. I may get called out for this comment, but someone has to point out your blatant hypocrisy.I'm ready for my card, Autumn.
by: MonicaHelms @ Sun Aug 14, 2011 at 08:13:20 AM CDT
Our next minor issue is yet another hilarious post by "Cristan" Williams. Mr. Williams is all upset because his silliness is being exposed and ridiculed both here and elsewhere...in spite of his stupid "facepalm" attacks. I guess we are supposed to be so devastated by those that we just curl up and fade away.
Now, Mr. Williams claims he has never tried to force "separatists" to join the TG movement. I suppose in his usual style of debate this claim can be supported, but an examination of his posts show just how silly that claim really is. He has attacked what he calls "TS separatists," mocked them, and tried, desperately, to refute their positions. Not really the actions of someone who doesn't "care if they don’t want to identify as being part of any specific community." A simple suggestion....at least for those who haven't drank the same "Flavor-Aid" (it wasn't Kool-Aid they drank at Jonestown). Read his remarks, and ask yourself where he is coming from. If you don't agree with me, that is fine. If you do...well, then join me in a good laugh at his absolute silliness.
This, of course, is typical of the semantical games that Mr. Williams engages in. He thinks himself far more clever than he remotely is.
Then, having hit Dana with yet another "facepalm" (Dana, I feel your pain) he goes on to attack me again, accusing me of lying about his comments about bathrooms. Apparently when he talked about how many women have attacked other women in the ladies room he wasn't really suggesting that women are just as much of a threat, if not more of a threat, as men...uh, I mean transgender "women."
Let me make three points here in response to Mr. WIlliams' silliness:
- I have made it clear that I think pre-op transsexuals should be allowed access to women's restrooms, provided that they actually are pursing surgery, taking hormones, and that they are sufficiently feminized that they can enter a women's bathroom without looking like a man in a dress. And provided that they conduct themselves in a proper manner. I would not extend this privilege to transvestites(both part-time and full-time), gender queers, drag queens, so-called non-ops, etc. Put another way, unless you are actively pursuing the removal of your penis, and the creation of a vagina, stay out of the ladies room.
- The real issue with men in women's space is not so much safety, as privacy. Men, as in transvestites, are unwelcome. The vast majority of women see the restroom as a place they can go and get away from men. This is sort of ironic, since "privacy" is the basis for many arguments made by people like Mr. Williams. The right to privacy is what prevents states from going after gays for engaging in sex, and it is the basis for abortion rights. Personally, I agree with the first, but not the second. Privacy is an important right, but life trumps privacy.
- Mr. Williams tries the silly ploy of suggesting that "trans men" would be forced into the ladies room. What a load of crap. First off, after about six months of hormones the average FTM has no problem passing as a man. Second, men do not have the issue with privacy that women do. They are not likely to feel threatened by a sufficiently transitioned FTM. In the relatively short period that they are changing, it is not too much to ask that they use reasonable discretion and try not to freak people out too much.
No, if Mr. Williams wasn't suggesting that women are as much of a threat as men, I would love to know what he was trying to suggest.... Oh, he does throw the 14th Amendment around a lot, clearly having absolutely no idea what it means.
The final issue this Sunday is the silliness out of Cuba. In a very bizarre story, we are told that a gay man has married a transsexual woman. Now, granted, there are some cultural differences with regard to sexuality between Anglo and Latino cultures. Many passive gay males in such cultures can avoid some stigma by adopting a feminine persona and presentation, but it is extremely rare for them to actually go so far as surgery. Now, it is possible that the "bride" in this case succumbed to pressure from society and had the surgery. I knew one person who was clearly ambivalent about surgery, but who stated that her family wanted her to have it, so she was going to. I recently heard that she had the operation. It will be interesting to see what comes of this.
It is also possible that the gay community in Cuba is simply using this as a ploy to get attention. The "bride" arrived holding a gay pride flag. And the groom has AIDS, so I suspect he does not expect it to be long before death.
The simple bottom line is, gay men do not generally marry transsexuals, at least not for love. I suppose if one felt pressured to marry that might be preferable to a natal woman, but this whole thing seems very questionable to me.