tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8544621986610962495.post1433614898884924277..comments2023-10-12T08:11:38.983-07:00Comments on Just Jennifer: For the (Hopefully) Last TimeJust Jenniferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15011627273687180475noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8544621986610962495.post-59655478435670605132009-09-29T18:34:59.291-07:002009-09-29T18:34:59.291-07:00It's not beyond my comprehension, it's jus...It's not beyond my comprehension, it's just not logically cohesive -- God sets forth the plan, yes? And at the very moment that this plan is set forth, God knows every turn that every electron will make, how every neuron in every brain will fire, and consequently how every decision made by every person will turn out.... and it was within God's power at that moment of creation to adjust the plan however minutely it took to make any change, for example to make it so that I was the one who believed in this God and you were the one questioning it? If God has such foreknowledge at the time of Creation, then it is the very plan of Creation which dictates that I never had any path but to be on the one I am on, that neither you nor I could ever think any thought but the ones that this God had crafted for us at the beginning of time.... obviously it would be absurd for God to punish me for dancing to those puppet strings, so I would have no choice but to continue being the pandeist that God dictated that I would invariably be....<br /><br />Unless God does <i>not</i> establish in advance what we will choose -- which takes us back to pandeism....Knujehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02106711599558787764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8544621986610962495.post-69596830563787450642009-09-28T23:26:51.713-07:002009-09-28T23:26:51.713-07:00Knuje, one of the hardest things for many of us to...Knuje, one of the hardest things for many of us to accept is that some things are simply beyond our comprehension. God's foreknowledge is, I believe, absolute and perfect. That is, He knows what will, and will not happen across the entirety of time and space. And yet, He allows free will. Now, how can this be? It seems, to our minds, a contradiction. But, if you consider Einstein's theories, including the concept of time as the fourth dimension, and you consider that we are limited to the three dimensions that we perceive, it becomes sort, of kind of, understandable. What will happen is knowable to God, but it is still happening in our experience. Even though God knows what we will chose, it is still our choice to make. In a sense, it seems impossible, but with God, all things are possible.<br /><br />The way I think of it is this...for God, time is like when we look at map. We see it all laid out. I believe that is how time is to God. It is all laid out before Him, and He see's it as a whole, from beginning to end.<br /><br />If you have ever read "Flatland," this might make sense. If not, well, then I will just point out that it is not as crazy as it sounds.Just Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15011627273687180475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8544621986610962495.post-31153892141312460372009-09-28T23:15:10.320-07:002009-09-28T23:15:10.320-07:00I am glad your disagreement is respectful!!
Would...I am glad your disagreement is respectful!!<br /><br />Would you agree with this formulation then, that God does not know in advance every choice that any person will make, that there are indeed circumstances that are "50/50" where the decision made following free will could just as easily go either way, and God does not know from the outset which choice will be made?Knujehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02106711599558787764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8544621986610962495.post-86528914709503022562009-09-26T21:43:58.603-07:002009-09-26T21:43:58.603-07:00No, I suspect no one, save the diehard Calvinists,...No, I suspect no one, save the diehard Calvinists, would wish that.<br /><br />And i agree, it is a most precious gift, but not as precious as the gift of His Son.Just Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15011627273687180475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8544621986610962495.post-47952432210614383152009-09-26T21:42:32.671-07:002009-09-26T21:42:32.671-07:00Well, Knuje, I respectfully disagree.Well, Knuje, I respectfully disagree.Just Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15011627273687180475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8544621986610962495.post-51578564804646688912009-09-25T11:15:31.429-07:002009-09-25T11:15:31.429-07:00I wouldn't want a world without free will. Fre...I wouldn't want a world without free will. Free choice is the most precious gift God has given mankind second only to his son.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8544621986610962495.post-35109855700321755442009-09-25T01:30:10.552-07:002009-09-25T01:30:10.552-07:00Actually Pandeism provides the greatest answer to ...Actually <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agw-mArUWys" rel="nofollow">Pandeism provides the greatest answer to the problem of evil</a>....Knujehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02106711599558787764noreply@blogger.com